I'm from California, but I lived in Michigan for a few years and I think the pronunciations besides pop/soda differences include a tendency for being able to pronounce a lot of foreign-but-familiar things: like Native American named places in MI and Spanish in CA. Other, more specific differences, were 'caramel' and when I pronounced Charlotte, MI the way you say the name in Charlotte's Web (Shar-LIT). But none of the Michiganders were able to pronounce certain street names like Sepulveda or cities like La Jolla (La HOYA) when they visited California. In closing, I'll say that I still don't know how to pronounce Ypsilanti- it's a very intimidating looking word!
I'm the opposite, I'm originally from Michigan, but now I live in California and I constantly get asked where I am from, because apparently I sound funny when saying several words. Basically anything with a long A sound...so, salad, lamp, dad, and my favorite, when I try to deny having an accent, and then people repeat back AAAAccent and I want to never speak again. Listening to you ladies talk makes me feel right at home :)
I will say I never understood why Charlotte, MI is pronounced as Shar-lot and I can easily pronouce La Jolla (which comes in handy since I live near there)
a) I giggle whenever there's a Game of Thrones reference. And it's ironic since Tyrion is the most human of the Lannisters in power. GoT show in the future?? D-Rock's snake is pretty!
b) Regional vernacular for oddities... what some people call a u-turn, in Northern California we call "flipping a bitch".
b.1 - "The Rusty Venture" is a ha-ha funny illustration of how one thing can spawn soo much in the same name. For reference, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykEGtwJuZIs
b.2 Otto-man, like the empire of Sultans.
b.3 Soda is west coast. Had a college roomie from upstate NY and she referred to all soft drinks as "pop". Which is slang for "hit", so a wtf moment ensued where I thought she was picking a fight when she asked for a pop. Same roomie called Top Ramen, "Ray-MEN", I've always heard it as "rahmen".
b.4 I worked for an internet retailer, selling plumbing fixtures. One gent from the South called, wanting to get a "bid-det" for his new Colombian wife. "Oh, you want a beh-dey?" "Yessum, a bid-det."
Hey, that map is awesome. It totally cleared things up for me, someone who has spent their whole life thinking that the entire country said soda like the rest of us here in the Northeast.
I'm pretty sure I lost like 10 bets from over the years by looking at that map.
I'm from Washington, Seattle to be specific. Most people here say pop or soft drink if you're in a restaurant.
About deer hunting, my whole life I've been completely against hunting, until quite recently. I now think hunting is a far more humane way of getting meat (assuming you use and eat the meat). At least a deer got to have a life in its natural habitat before being killed, unlike cows, pigs, chickens here in America that live in horrible, cramped conditions, getting fed food they're not supposed to eat, and pumped full of hormones and antibiotics until they're killed. But yeah, that's my opinion.
My questions are, does hunting pay off? After equipment, license, etc, is it still a cheap way to get meat, or are you better off buying 1/4 or half a cow from a farm, or even just meat from the grocery store? And is that why most people hunt, for the meat, or is it more for the thrill, or the head they can get stuffed and place on the wall? (I live in Seattle, as I mentioned, I don't know anyone who hunts, so don't mind me if these are dumb questions)
I grew up in a family of hunters and did my stint at hunter's safety.
For those in my area [rural California], hunting is a way of life. Guns passed down generations, favored secret hunting spots, father & son (daughters, too, although many prefer not to join the menfolk) bonding time. These same people tend to camp and fish a lot, too. Outdoors living is a way of life.
So I suppose the cost is negated by the fact that it's not entirely for subsistence in many cases. A part of the thrill of being in the woods, perhaps stalked by a mountain lion and cub (happened to my brother) while searching for that big buck one spotted two weeks before opening season. Then there's the choice of weapon-- rifle or bow-- each has their own skill set.
it's cheaper if you butcher it yourself-- and that is the main cost, provided you already have the equipment needed already. License and deer tags [Cali permits hunters to take two bucks a year, any more is poaching] are needed, and a certificate of completion from a Hunter's Safety course put on by the Game Wardens.
If one figures 7.99 a pound for farm-raised elk, that's like a 120 pounds meat after butchering, that's almost a thousand dollars. Even with the cost of butchering, hunting is about half the cost. But then again, venison and elk can be considered a luxury food of sorts by those who don't have access to a successful hunter sharing the wealth.
We were on vacation this summer and stopped in at a restaurant where I ordered something with 'chipotle' in the name, pronounced it 'chi-pote-lay', and the waiter just went about nuts because 'finally, someone who pronounces it correctly'. Apparently, there are a lot of people who pronounce it 'chi-pot-tul'.
Also, Mr. Jen is hot and should consider a second career as a cover model.
Oh man it's funny how you always say my last name and then this was a show about pronunciation. It's actually pronounced "Cheese-um" like the Pringles chips "Cheezums" minus the 's'. All of the cheese jokes until middle school, true story. It's a weird one though like I always tell people if you hear it you are bound to spell it wrong and if you see it you are bound to say it wrong. To make it more confusing there was a construction company in my good old home state of Indiana in my hometown called "Chism" construction and occasionally we'd get the odd phone call wanting to know about building things.
Also Indiana also shares the 'pop' colloquialism which being next door neighbors isn't too surprising. When I moved to California two years ago my roomate (who had lived in Indiana for two years in high school, we stayed friends, moved in together after college, etc) hated that term for it so now I have been trained to say 'soda'. However, I make an exception for those huge Polar Pops from Circle K. You can't knock some alliteration right? Now that I'm studying abroad to get my masters I'd freaking kill for a fountain soda. Here I usually just specify by brand though I want to say that there is somewhere, some country I can't remember which, that all sodas or pops or soda-pops are 'cokes'. Anyway fountain drinks don't exist here it's all in bottles or cans and the large at McDonald's is the USA definition of medium. I am in a soda deprived wasteland. London is a beautiful city though, but I digress.
OH NOES NOT BAMBI'S MOTHER! Just kidding. Personally, I'd never join in on hunting, but I don't knock people who do as long as it is humane and such. I'm very carnivorous and I love steak and the rest. I don't know if they do this in Michigan, but in Indiana they usually have like a few days where they let the hunters into the state parks to lower the deer populations so they don't fight for food resources and starve to death because there are too many of them anyway. There are so many deer that really I don't think deer hunting is a big deal. I think it gets stickier when you get into matters of animal conservation versus people perceiving animals as threats and nuisances and putting creatures on the endangered species list and that sort of thing. I don't think most people in the US are going to go Tiger hunting or something, but that may be a separate issue entirely.
How do you feel about taking a trophy from your kills?
Me personally, it doesn't bother me unless you're just killing for the sake of showing said trophy off. At least use what you kill, even if it's just the meat. I have no qualms about hunting though, because I personally find venison to be delicious lol.
ok so being from NY I say soda not pop. pop is when u hit someone /something. Or...when u sit on the couch with your dad with some bubble paper & annoy your mom (giggles at the memory) I say DrYours instead of Draws, cause draws means you put writing utensil to paper & Draw something (past tense) I watch Alaska State Troupers & when the beards get too big the cull them, that's ok. But when people kill like 20 deer & leave the meat...that's wrong. Also....I get confused cause if u hit a moose or bear they pick up the carcass & give it to charities. ....what does moose or bear taste like? Deer meat is awesome if done right. Love the snake! (pardon any & all mistakes, I'm high on Nyquil Z.) Love the show!
Awesome! You used the words I listed back then! You are all awesome. :D
I have nothing on hunting, since I don't have an opinion on it and I've never met a hunter, so it's a completely foreign topic to me. It'll be interesting to learn more about it on Friday!
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ReplyDeleteI'm from California, but I lived in Michigan for a few years and I think the pronunciations besides pop/soda differences include a tendency for being able to pronounce a lot of foreign-but-familiar things: like Native American named places in MI and Spanish in CA. Other, more specific differences, were 'caramel' and when I pronounced Charlotte, MI the way you say the name in Charlotte's Web (Shar-LIT). But none of the Michiganders were able to pronounce certain street names like Sepulveda or cities like La Jolla (La HOYA) when they visited California. In closing, I'll say that I still don't know how to pronounce Ypsilanti- it's a very intimidating looking word!
ReplyDeleteI'm the opposite, I'm originally from Michigan, but now I live in California and I constantly get asked where I am from, because apparently I sound funny when saying several words. Basically anything with a long A sound...so, salad, lamp, dad, and my favorite, when I try to deny having an accent, and then people repeat back AAAAccent and I want to never speak again. Listening to you ladies talk makes me feel right at home :)
DeleteI will say I never understood why Charlotte, MI is pronounced as Shar-lot and I can easily pronouce La Jolla (which comes in handy since I live near there)
a) I giggle whenever there's a Game of Thrones reference. And it's ironic since Tyrion is the most human of the Lannisters in power. GoT show in the future?? D-Rock's snake is pretty!
ReplyDeleteb) Regional vernacular for oddities... what some people call a u-turn, in Northern California we call "flipping a bitch".
b.1 - "The Rusty Venture" is a ha-ha funny illustration of how one thing can spawn soo much in the same name. For reference, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykEGtwJuZIs
b.2 Otto-man, like the empire of Sultans.
b.3 Soda is west coast. Had a college roomie from upstate NY and she referred to all soft drinks as "pop". Which is slang for "hit", so a wtf moment ensued where I thought she was picking a fight when she asked for a pop. Same roomie called Top Ramen, "Ray-MEN", I've always heard it as "rahmen".
b.4 I worked for an internet retailer, selling plumbing fixtures. One gent from the South called, wanting to get a "bid-det" for his new Colombian wife. "Oh, you want a beh-dey?" "Yessum, a bid-det."
b.5 My pet-peeve word: ask vs 'ax'.
c Venison is tasty.
Everything you ever wanted to know about how people in every county in the US express the concept of "fizzy sugary beverage":
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(So apparently, Chedward and Ana would drink pop, at least if they ever stopped drinking booze long enough to consume anything else.)
Hey, that map is awesome. It totally cleared things up for me, someone who has spent their whole life thinking that the entire country said soda like the rest of us here in the Northeast.
DeleteI'm pretty sure I lost like 10 bets from over the years by looking at that map.
I'm from Washington, Seattle to be specific. Most people here say pop or soft drink if you're in a restaurant.
ReplyDeleteAbout deer hunting, my whole life I've been completely against hunting, until quite recently. I now think hunting is a far more humane way of getting meat (assuming you use and eat the meat). At least a deer got to have a life in its natural habitat before being killed, unlike cows, pigs, chickens here in America that live in horrible, cramped conditions, getting fed food they're not supposed to eat, and pumped full of hormones and antibiotics until they're killed. But yeah, that's my opinion.
My questions are, does hunting pay off? After equipment, license, etc, is it still a cheap way to get meat, or are you better off buying 1/4 or half a cow from a farm, or even just meat from the grocery store? And is that why most people hunt, for the meat, or is it more for the thrill, or the head they can get stuffed and place on the wall? (I live in Seattle, as I mentioned, I don't know anyone who hunts, so don't mind me if these are dumb questions)
I grew up in a family of hunters and did my stint at hunter's safety.
DeleteFor those in my area [rural California], hunting is a way of life. Guns passed down generations, favored secret hunting spots, father & son (daughters, too, although many prefer not to join the menfolk) bonding time. These same people tend to camp and fish a lot, too. Outdoors living is a way of life.
So I suppose the cost is negated by the fact that it's not entirely for subsistence in many cases. A part of the thrill of being in the woods, perhaps stalked by a mountain lion and cub (happened to my brother) while searching for that big buck one spotted two weeks before opening season. Then there's the choice of weapon-- rifle or bow-- each has their own skill set.
it's cheaper if you butcher it yourself-- and that is the main cost, provided you already have the equipment needed already. License and deer tags [Cali permits hunters to take two bucks a year, any more is poaching] are needed, and a certificate of completion from a Hunter's Safety course put on by the Game Wardens.
If one figures 7.99 a pound for farm-raised elk, that's like a 120 pounds meat after butchering, that's almost a thousand dollars. Even with the cost of butchering, hunting is about half the cost. But then again, venison and elk can be considered a luxury food of sorts by those who don't have access to a successful hunter sharing the wealth.
We were on vacation this summer and stopped in at a restaurant where I ordered something with 'chipotle' in the name, pronounced it 'chi-pote-lay', and the waiter just went about nuts because 'finally, someone who pronounces it correctly'. Apparently, there are a lot of people who pronounce it 'chi-pot-tul'.
ReplyDeleteAlso, Mr. Jen is hot and should consider a second career as a cover model.
Technically though, chipotle should be pronounced Chee-poh-tl-eh, at least thats how it is in Mexico city.
DeleteOh man it's funny how you always say my last name and then this was a show about pronunciation. It's actually pronounced "Cheese-um" like the Pringles chips "Cheezums" minus the 's'. All of the cheese jokes until middle school, true story. It's a weird one though like I always tell people if you hear it you are bound to spell it wrong and if you see it you are bound to say it wrong. To make it more confusing there was a construction company in my good old home state of Indiana in my hometown called "Chism" construction and occasionally we'd get the odd phone call wanting to know about building things.
ReplyDeleteAlso Indiana also shares the 'pop' colloquialism which being next door neighbors isn't too surprising. When I moved to California two years ago my roomate (who had lived in Indiana for two years in high school, we stayed friends, moved in together after college, etc) hated that term for it so now I have been trained to say 'soda'. However, I make an exception for those huge Polar Pops from Circle K. You can't knock some alliteration right? Now that I'm studying abroad to get my masters I'd freaking kill for a fountain soda. Here I usually just specify by brand though I want to say that there is somewhere, some country I can't remember which, that all sodas or pops or soda-pops are 'cokes'. Anyway fountain drinks don't exist here it's all in bottles or cans and the large at McDonald's is the USA definition of medium. I am in a soda deprived wasteland. London is a beautiful city though, but I digress.
OH NOES NOT BAMBI'S MOTHER! Just kidding. Personally, I'd never join in on hunting, but I don't knock people who do as long as it is humane and such. I'm very carnivorous and I love steak and the rest. I don't know if they do this in Michigan, but in Indiana they usually have like a few days where they let the hunters into the state parks to lower the deer populations so they don't fight for food resources and starve to death because there are too many of them anyway. There are so many deer that really I don't think deer hunting is a big deal. I think it gets stickier when you get into matters of animal conservation versus people perceiving animals as threats and nuisances and putting creatures on the endangered species list and that sort of thing. I don't think most people in the US are going to go Tiger hunting or something, but that may be a separate issue entirely.
How do you feel about taking a trophy from your kills?
ReplyDeleteMe personally, it doesn't bother me unless you're just killing for the sake of showing said trophy off. At least use what you kill, even if it's just the meat. I have no qualms about hunting though, because I personally find venison to be delicious lol.
ok so being from NY I say soda not pop. pop is when u hit someone /something. Or...when u sit on the couch with your dad with some bubble paper & annoy your mom (giggles at the memory) I say DrYours instead of Draws, cause draws means you put writing utensil to paper & Draw something (past tense) I watch Alaska State Troupers & when the beards get too big the cull them, that's ok. But when people kill like 20 deer & leave the meat...that's wrong. Also....I get confused cause if u hit a moose or bear they pick up the carcass & give it to charities. ....what does moose or bear taste like? Deer meat is awesome if done right. Love the snake! (pardon any & all mistakes, I'm high on Nyquil Z.) Love the show!
ReplyDeleteAwesome! You used the words I listed back then! You are all awesome. :D
ReplyDeleteI have nothing on hunting, since I don't have an opinion on it and I've never met a hunter, so it's a completely foreign topic to me. It'll be interesting to learn more about it on Friday!
So yeah, thanks for being so awesome, you guys.