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Friday, May 11, 2012

50 Shades and Abusive Relationships

Kel over at Coffee and Prozac sent me some very interesting .pdfs. These documents put a fine point on everything that bothers me about the popularity of 50 Shades (okay, not everything... they don't cover the blatant plagiarism everyone seems to be giving a pass). They were hand outs that would help a person determine if they are in a relationship with an abuser, or if someone has the potential to be an abuser.

Now, when the publicity first started snowballing out of control for this book, Dr. Drew took a lot of heat by saying that 50 Shades was "actual violence against women." He then went on to state that people who are abused as kids are into BDSM, which sent any validity in that first statement straight down the toilet. One thing he did have right was 50 Shades of Grey's glorification of abusive relationships. Unfortunately, because of the size of the ass he showed to Romancelandia, you can barely bring up the abuse components of Ana and Christian's relationship without someone shouting over you that BDSM is not abuse, and you're a small-minded person if you conflate the two. Hardly anyone will enter into a discussion of the abusive relationship in this book without the focus shifting to the characters' sex lives. So, you know, thanks, Dr. Drew. You just made this discussion a fucking minefield.

BDSM is not abuse. I have never, nor would I ever, claim that safe, consensual BDSM is abuse. But these handouts Kel sent me really help pinpoint what is so wrong with the relationship that is the plot of 50 Shades, without confusing spankings with beating. Let's go through one of them, point by point, shall we?

The following "red flags" are from a hand out entitled "Universal Red Flags" taken from a book called How To Spot A Dangerous Man. The instructions read: "Check all the following that apply even if only remotely". Let me share the ones I checked on Ana's behalf:

You feel uncomfortable about something he has said or done, and the feeling remains. I don't think we need to cite any one particular incident where Ana has been made uncomfortable by Christian Grey. This is prevalent throughout the book.

You wish he would go away, you want to cry, and you want to run away from him. Ana often thinks about how she can "escape" Christian, how she needs to find an exit, how she can't handle being around him because she can't trust herself to think clearly. In just the portion of the book we've reviewed so far, Ana has ended three of her encounters with Christian as a sobbing mess.

You have the urge to "love him into emotional wellness," if that were possible. Again, based on the chapters we've reviewed here so far, Ana does seem to believe that she can change him, or that he has psychological wounds that need to be healed.

You feel bad about yourself when you are around him. One of the clearest indicators, to me, anyway, that there is a power imbalance in their relationship is the fact that Ana constantly compares herself - how she looks, how she acts, how she's dressed - to Christian and his very wealthy lifestyle, and she always finds herself lacking. She often wonders why he's interested in her.

You only feel good about yourself when you are with him. Conversely, Ana doesn't have a nice word to say about herself unless it is confirmed by Christian. When her roommate tells her that she's pretty, Ana interprets it as a patronizing compliment Kate can't possibly mean, but when Christian Grey calls Ana beautiful, she suddenly believes that she is. In fact, the only time she believes anything good about herself is when it's Christian pointing it out.

You feel that he wants too much from you. I think this one requires very little explanation. Not only does he want more than she wishes to give, he constantly pressures her to give him what he wants.

You are emotionally tired from him; you feel he "sucks the life out of you." Now, Ana never says, "he sucks the life out of me." But again, even if we just look at the first half of this book, she's doing a lot of crying herself to sleep, needing to get away from him because he's too intense, etc.

Your value system and his are very different, and it's problematic. I have this phrase I trot out from time to time with my friends who are dating: If you have to "work on" the relationship within the first month, it's not going to work out. Sometimes, people are simply incompatible. Ana and Christian have spent most of their relationship with Ana trying to find ways around giving Christian what he wants, and Christian refusing to bend on his expectations. This is not going to clear up in a few more dates.

Your past and his are very different, and the two of you have conflicts over it. Spoiler alert, Christian is obsessive and controlling about food because he went hungry as a child. I know we haven't gotten to that part of the book in the review yet, but it fits in here. And that's just one of the ways their pasts differ in problematic ways. While Ana sees his earlier relationship with a much older woman as statutory rape, Christian believes that it was appropriate and has a continuing friendship with the woman, which makes Ana uncomfortable. Ana doesn't even want the type of relationship Christian is after, they both are aware of this fact, and he continues to pursue her.

You tell your friends you are "unsure about the relationship" Ana has already had this conversation with Kate in the part we've reviewed.

You feel isolated from other relationships with friends and family. Ana doesn't just feel isolated, she is isolated, by the nondisclosure agreement Christian asked her to sign. She finds herself living a double life in order to please Christian and still maintain her relationships with her loved ones.

You feel in the wrong because he is always right and goes to great lengths to show you he is right. This was most obviously displayed in chapter fourteen, where Christian responds to all of Ana's concerns and questions with long explanations that dance around actual answers.

You are uncomfortable because he continually says he knows what is best for you. He isn't pressuring her into signing a contract that allows him to act out his sexual fantasies on her for him. It's all about her, and her happiness. He just wants what's best for her, just like when he showed up at the bar when she asked him not to, and his concerns about her car.

You notice he needs you too frequently, too much, or too intensely. Christian goes so far as to say that he wants her too much, or that he can't control himself in her presence because of the intensity of his passion for her.

You notice he quickly discloses information about his past or present or his emotional pain. After they go out for coffee, their first encounter that is not tied to the interview, he warns her off from him with cryptic, tortured statements like, "I'm not the man for you."

You sense he is pushing too quickly for an emotional connection with you. Okay, this one, Ana wouldn't check off, but I would. From an outside observer standpoint, Christian is running a very good game of  "pull her in, push her away," which is forcing an emotional connection with Ana. After having coffee with the guy once, she's on the floor of a parking garage sobbing. This isn't just Ana being emotionally immature, it's Ana being emotionally manipulated by Christian.

You find yourself accepting him "for now" even though you have plenty of red flags that would help you to terminate the relationship if you paid attention to them. Ana is already aware that what she wants from the relationship and what Christian wants are two vastly different, completely incompatible things, but she commits to the relationship despite knowing it has no hope of a future.

These weren't all the entries on the list, but some of the questions regarding previous children or substance abuse obviously don't apply to Mr. Grey. Looking over what we have here, is this a healthy relationship? Can we even consider this to be a romance novel, with all of these elements in place?

However, we've seen ample evidence of women saying they would prefer their husbands to behave more like Christian Grey. Others say that obviously, they wouldn't want Christian Grey in real life, but it's the fantasy they're enjoying. What fantasy? I fully support fantasizing about a man who takes control in the bedroom. I cannot, for the life of me, understand how it would be enjoyable to fantasize about a man who takes control in all aspects of your life. And remember, I'm not talking about just a BDSM lifestyle here. I'm talking about the measures Christian takes to control Ana's life before they even enter into a relationship together.

The more I think about it, the more I am depressed by the message of this book, a message that so many women have embraced as a romantic ideal. While in the end, Ana does not stay with Christian (spoiler alert), there are two more books in the series. I do not have enough faith that those books will rectify the glorification of emotional-abuse-as-love in the first book enough to read them. The more I delve into this book, the more disturbing I find it, and its popularity.

You may have noticed that the recaps have become fewer in the past two weeks. This is not because I am bowing to pressure or discontinuing them. I just need to maintain a balance between talking about 50 Shades and talking about other things. This is, after all, my author blog and not a blog about 50 Shades of Grey exclusively. The recaps will still go up, just not the five a week that I started with. That way, I will have time to concentrate on what I really want to blog about. INTERPRETIVE MOVEMENT!

33 comments:

  1. The wannabe English major in me believes that the popularity of 50 Shades and Twilight is related to strange middle-American notions about sex: That women shouldn’t enjoy it. And bad things should happen when they desire it.

    I remain baffled by Twilight’s popularity – I grew up with Anne Rice’s vampires steeped in Catholic Guilt (-also what I grew up with) and desire (the repeated erotic *act *of vampirism in the books). I still can’t wrap my head around grown women being enamored by Meyer’s all -American, baseball –playing, forever-attending-high-school, patriarch-centered, neutered (fang-wise), vampire and the naïve woman who loves him.

    Bella, who’s a romance novel Wile E. Coyote, who feels desire and gets punished for it. Is left by her object of desire, and hurts herself. Finally gets to have sex and ends up with a broken bed and a grueling pregnancy. That’s amoré! (Not even touching on the strange roles men and women play in this universe.)

    As for 50 Shades, I can only assume that whatshername is a “heroine” in the same vein (ha! Pun!). Naïve. Told not want what she (think she) wants and gets “punished” (in a contractual, bdsm-sort-of way) for it (I’m just guessing since I will never plunk down money on these books). I assume this is “fantasy” for folks who have guilt over sex or who have never read good erotica (as I think Twilight was for people who never read a good vampire novel).

    Thanks for trudging through 50 Shades, and s well as the dialog about it.

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  2. You discussed rape culture in a previous entry and I completely agree that rape culture is becoming/has become ingrained in women. What frightens me is how young people are being indoctrinated (re: Twilight).

    When I've asked friends why they like this book they reply that Edward/Christian are "real men". Teen girls have told me they like Twilight because Edward and Bella "really love each other". It frightens me that they don't realize that you can be a "real man" without controlling your partner or that true love is not displayed through jealousy and forced isolation.

    It is empowering to read a blog like yours because while it is extremely humorous, you make a clear and valid stance against this type of abuse (among other things). So, thank you for your dialogue on 50 Shades as well as the myriad other topics you cover.

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  3. Great post, yet again, Jen. I'm am continually amazed at how you so brilliantly explain this real aspects in such a readable fashion. I tip my hat to you.

    I think it's unfortunate that this book is the one forging ahead in terms of erotism... I had one mom tell me it was basically porn on paper... which is so frustrating for the erotic industry when we've spent forever trying to dispel that belief. But when the relationship is so clearly volatile, how can folks really think much else?

    I look forward to all your future musings, especially that creative movement...
    hugs,

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  4. It all makes me kinda sad, thinking about what so many women are idolizing. I'd like to think that most women are better and stronger than this. I have quite a few good friends who gush all day about this abusive, manipulative character and I just stare at them and force myself to think about why we are friends in the first place, lest I run away screaming. One of my single friends in her 30's stated that she wants to find a "Christian" to marry and I just gave her the confused dog side-stare. (I'd already preached.)

    This all grates on me, because I married a snake once. I know a snake when I see one now and Christian is a snake. I barely got through the first few chapters before I just could not go on. I know firsthand how hard it is to spot a snake when you're in the thick of it, but it is a lot easier to spot one when you're looking from the outside in and we're all looking from the outside in, cuz this is a frikkin book.

    I read your recaps religiously, because you are a hilarious buffer and you pick up on every detail that anyone with common sense should. The comic relief you bring is so much fun, but thank you for posting this and for highlighting the wrongness of all the Fifty Shades of Nonsense.

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  5. One of the most alarming things about Fifty Shades (coming from someone who hasn't read it) is the fact that it is fan fiction -or started out as such- for the YOUNG ADULT Twilight series. And both, apparently, would have women and girls believe that real love is painful in every way.

    It's one thing to add elements between leading characters that make them struggle or but heads. It's another to demoralize one character repeatedly for the sake of a storyline.

    And while these are serious issues, I do enjoy your humorous takes on the subject.

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  7. I read all three books, back-to-back. I was completely sucked in. I knew little about BDSM except that it was naughty and only for dirty girls. ;) So for me, the sexy-time was so frickin' hot! I had never read anything like it!

    It wasn't until I was finished and had spent some time away from the books that I got the heebie jeebies. I suddenly can't remember why I liked them so much. It seems clear to ME that the original stuff sounds like plagiarism but ok, I'll bite that there is a fine line between plagiarism and fanfic.

    Sure, Chedward is rich. Who wouldn't want a rich, classy, handsome guy (Chedward is classy in dress, not in behavior, of course)? I would love someone to help me make decisions and come to conclusions. But that's the key: HELP me make decisions. NOT make decisions for me and against my wishes. And I would love to have this rich, classy, handsome guy be a freak and a dynamo in the sack! But NOT at the cost of my pride, integrity, self-esteem, ambitions, desires, freedom, dreams AND personal choice in food and vehicles! Ok, sure I'd give all that up for one hot weekend in Vegas with Chedward but THAT'S IT! ;)

    Seriously though, it IS disturbing that THIS is what so many women, young and older, are hot for and that they don't seem to see all of those negative points that Jennifer was illustrating in her blog post. Is that was ladies want these days? A controlling, emotionally crippled, hot, rich guy?? Is that what's doing it for us these days?

    For me, I say no. Freaky, hot sex? Yes. Thinly veiled abuse? No, not doin' it for me.

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  8. Wow! I love your analysis of these stories. I have not jumped on the "50 shades" bandwagon mainly because it was fan fiction based on twilight. I never had any desire to read twilight because they were YA and that's just not my thing. When they were made into movies, they really weren't my thing cuz angsty teenage vampires and werewolves REALLY don't do it for me.

    I did read excerpts from all 50 Shades books and honestly didn't feel any emotion or connection to these characters (especially for 10 bucks a pop). I realize it can take a while to get that connection but by God I've got too much reading to do to wait till page 50 or even page 10 to give a damn about these people. I just figured at some point, I'd pick it up when it got cheaper (like for free). Well, lo and behold, movie rights were sold. Of course this meant they were not going to be free for a loooooooong time if ever! No biggie, cuz when I realized how all the little lambs followed blindly, this copycat, I just couldn't bring myself to even care.

    I love to read BDSM but not abuse which going by your checklist is what this is. As another commenter stated, she's been married to a snake as have I and his emotional manipulation of me during our marriage, hell, our entire relationship, was abuse plain and simple. You don't have to be hit for it to be true.

    I'm sad also that our young people take these scenarios of "romance" to be true in "real" relationships. Sheesh! Really??? And now it seems, many grown women have jumped on this bandwagon with 50 Shades.

    I have loved reading your thoughts on this and am now going to find the rest! What can I say sometimes I'm a slow starter which in this case a good thing cuz I might have spent my hard earned money on this trash!

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  9. I used to wonder if I was the only woman in the world who's "into" BSDM only for the fun of it. I don't think of myself as a sub, nor my husband as a dom. I sure as heck don't have a submissive attitude in my daily life, and my husband doesn't control much of anything about my life (though I admit he usually gets his way in the fight for the remote control). I just think the physical sensations are pleasant (though I'm into very LIGHT play), and the fantasy element is enjoyable. But I wouldn't even think about being willing to do such things if I didn't love and trust my husband and know that he doesn't think of me as inferior to him. But to read about these things online, you'd think everyone into BSDM is deadly serious about it and it's a full time thing. I know now that's not the case, but let me tell you, it can be puzzling.

    So the point I'm gradually getting to here (honest) is this: I kind of wonder if there's a boatload of women out there (and some men, too, I'm sure) who enjoy certain aspects of this lifestyle, or like the fantasy of it, but who for some reason can't quite wrap their minds around the fact that it doesn't have to be all or nothing, that it can be nothing more than a simple fantasy. Maybe that's causing some issues?

    Though I gotta say, for me, this book would never trigger any sexy fantasies (I haven't read it and never wanted to, but I AM loving the snarky recaps!). It's way too controlling, there's no romance, and the male lead seems like a creepy jerkwad. I don't get it. And that's from someone who does dabble. Just too weird.

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  10. dittos to all above, and one observation. Isn't it interesting that Twilight and this POS are popular at the same time as Hunger Games? There's Katniss out there doing nothing that's not for herself, killing people, not taking crap, and everyone loves her. But then they fall for these ridiculous, badly written books about damaged women who can't do a thing for themselves. I haven't read either Twilight or 50 Shades, but I have read Hunger Games (hated)... and I know women who are totally into both. It's just WEIRD.

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  11. I love you for this. please keep articulating all my squicky feelings about these fucking books far better than I ever could.

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  12. THANK YOU for posting this! I can ignore the horrid writing (kinda) and I don't know about the Twilight stuff because I've never read them (gasp!), but the abuse in these books! I work with victims of domestic violence and when they start talking about wanting to read these books, I find a way to describe the two main characters without telling them who they are. They identify so much with Ana as the victim and Christian as the abuser. Then I tell them who these people are. They are stunned to find out that it is what "so many women want." I hate these books for making abuse seem like what every woman wants and how every man should be. I read all three (can't gripe about something if you haven't read it, right?) and I wanted to throw my ereader through the window about 4 chapters in, but I didn't cause I love my ereader :)

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  13. Hey Jen, could you include this post with your 50 shades recaps? I think it is so important and I had to hunt to find.

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  14. Oh I love you all! I thought I was alone in the wilderness, hating this 'book'. As it happens, I've just been reading a book about the case of The Brides in the Bath, and in it there's a quote by Havelock Ellis, a 'forward thinking proponent of sexual liberation' from approx. 100 years ago. 'It is easy to trace in women a delight in experiencing physical pain when inflicted by a lover, and an eagerness to accept subjection to his will. Such a tendency is certainly normal. To abandon herself to her lover, to be able to rely on his physical strength and mental resourcefulness, to be swept out of herself and beyond the control of her own will, to drift idly in delicious submission to another and stronger will - this is one of the commonest aspirations in a young woman's intimate love-dreams'. Seems many women have not moved on in a 100 years!!

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  15. Having been in an emotionally abusive relationship for over a year and a half, I find it pretty disgusting that 50 Shades is being held up as an example of an ideal romantic relationship. It was incredibly hard for me to read the book, seeing so many examples of manipulation and abuse (totally aside from any of the BDSM plotlines) and recognising them from my own experiences. I discovered recently (SPOILER) that Ana and Christian end up married with kids by the end of the third book, after her love "cures" him of his issues. Now, the first book is atrocious for glorifying emotional abuse as some kind of romantic ideal (as well as being horribly badly written and quite obviously ripped off from Twilight, which I also think is shit :-P), but to have that outcome?! I get that perhaps the writer was trying to be all "but hey, it has a happy ending..." but the ONE thing that kept me with my abusive ex for so long, was the misguided belief (which he manipulated me into thinking) that in time, I could "love him into emotional well being." Had I read this book series (and I gave up after the first, because it was far too triggering for me), I could easily have been stupid enough to think "oh wow, here's evidence that staying with him is the right thing to do! Eventually, he will love me and commit properly and stop destroying my self belief and treating me like a sack of shit!" The message we need to give to anyone in an emotionally abusive relationship is that they deserve better, not that if they stick around and try to become what their abuser is really looking for (and how many times in the book does Ana do things she doesn't want to, just because Christian has manipulated her into doing so?!), everything will be okay in the end.

    Reading your list of "red flags," I could attribute pretty much all of them to my own abusive relationship, as well as to Ana's relationship with Christian. There's nothing romantic or sexy about abuse. EL James should be hanging her head in shame.

    Still, I would like to thank you for writing recaps that actually made me laugh out loud; laughter is the best medicine, after all. :-)

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  16. @Haldol This post is not tagged or included with the rest of the recaps at the moment for the safety of the person involved. I've left it on the blog, I just don't want it to be super accessible. I may include it on the main 50 Shades page at a later date.

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  17. OH! You know what? I'm brain dead. I had this post confused with a different one. I thought I had linked it the main page, but I'll do that now!

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  18. I was thinking about the movie Secretary, in which there is a Dom/sub relationship and I have this feeling that EL James watched the movie but did not understand it at all.

    Christian Grey is based a lot on Spader's character (well obviously he's Edward Cullen, but with Spader's character mixed in) because in the movie he is very controlling, telling her how much to eat (is this why it's brought up so many times in FSoG?), circling her typos with a big red marker, and the spanking scene but what El James doesn't take away is that Maggie Gyllehal (sp?) loves the crap out of it. At first she's a little shocked, but the shock goes to horniness and delight in a few minutes. When he stops the relationship, she actively tries to break rules so he can punish her again.

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    1. Well, AND some. It's a sexy film, while Fifty Shades is not a sexy book, and even though it has little in common with the original short story, is resplendently clear in terms of Maggie's response. She even DELIBERATELY puts that worm in the envelope to goad him! The film is good, in many different ways, but most of all it is good because it deals with tricky subjects poetically and with human grace. She is a self-harmer who has just got out of a mental home, who then manages to find someone else who will do the harming for her, someone who, even though he has these 'tastes', says at one point, 'this is disgusting.' She doesn't think it is, and nor does the film. What we get is a delightful narrative, which is visually gorgeous, and, while mainstream, offers up the idea of a submissive who really understands the rules (she's made them up herself, for one thing) and isn't in any way trying to change the guy into a 'normal' person because 'he needs saving from his dark side'. This is the problem with Fifty, as Jennifer endlessly states, and is forced to endlessly state. And as I am forced to endlessly state, so it's quite nice to have someone do it for me.

      I like the way you say, 'I have this feeling E.L. James watched the movie but did not understand it at all.' Well, yes. She is part of this namby pamby 'victim psychology' 'politically correct' and I am sorry to say, viciously Christian (hence the name), formulaic, and abusive in itself, attitude towards the human race that is prevalent today in ways I find very frightening, as I find the popularity of this book very frightening. It is not just reactionary shit, it is also - and this is my main criticism - my MAIN criticism - doing the idea of fantasy and the human imagination down so far it is no longer even there.

      Secretary was an imaginative film. You got to see people's real feelings, and the fantasies that flow therefrom, even if they weren't up your street - but what IS? Everything and nothing. It valued human love, which is all about pairing up, and connection, and at its best the mutual rendering of highly personal dreams - rather than the ghastly hole-in-the slot borrowed ideas from someone else's foul self-help book. And the film goes right against the idea of 'normal therapy' from its opening scene! It actually describes WHY she'd be cutting herself - because things get too much, because it's the only method available to stop the psychological pain - and it doesn't criticise that - and then, taking from Maggie's original perspective that this method is not in and of itself wrong (instead of 'trying to cure her'), then augments it by finding a lover who can deliver the same thing, without all this nonsense about exploring his angst and trying to solve it, etc. Maggie IS his solution, and she his, and in what is finally a very ordinary and very human way - the meaning of friendship, by which I mean 'kinship', never mind the form it takes. I think it's a charming film. I think it's cool she wanders around picking up paper in her mouth. E.L. James would ban all that, not because she's a reactionary, soulless, stoop of a woman, but because she's an intensely boring and unpleasant person. What THIS says is that everyone who reads the book and likes it is also intensely boring and unpleasant, and that is what makes me despair. But thanks for mentioning Secretary. It makes me happy just to recall it.

      Of course I'd been waiting for James Spader to do something like this from his cameo role in 'Pretty In Pink', an otherwise execrable film. So, not everyone called James is awful. That makes me happy too.

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  19. My best friend told me that I should read this book (50 Shades of Grey), so I asked her to tell me what it was about. What she told me not only sounded absolutely repulsing to me, but made me curious as to the actual undercurrents of the story from both sides. I obviously heard my friend glorifying the plot, so I wanted to see it from another perspective.

    Although I haven't read the book myself (and honestly have no intention of doing so), I value this view of it and thank you for analyzing the book critically so that I don't have to.

    Carry on, you brave soldier.

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  20. I've been following your posts regarding the 50 Shades books. For a conservative girl, I've been greatly amused by your commentary. I'm an avid reader and I lament the lack of good, quality material being published these days. While erotica is not my style of reading, I appreciate the value of a good, strong romance with a solid story to back it up.

    Thanks for making me laugh! I mentioned your blog in my own post tonight. It was subtle because I have a few ultra conservative readers...still, you're there! :)

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  21. Completely agree with this. And I can tell you that most people involved with BDSM would agree with it as well - in the scene most people regard 50 Shades as incredibly harmful for portraying BDSM as something that any sane person involved with the scene would consider to be a dangerous and abusive relationship that completely violates the principles of Sane, Safe and Consensual.

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  22. I would definitely agree with Dr. Drew's comments, and I would bet that most of America is as well. No one but someone emotionally disturbed would actually get off on BDSM, but that's why it's so popular. Women understand that the book is totally f---ed up and find it exciting to experience that side of "reality" without *actually* experiencing it. A&C's relationship is totally abusive, but I think MOST women understand that it's just fantasy. No healthy individual would enjoy the activities A&C partake in, or even entertain the idea of partaking in such activities! MOST women are sane. I don't think this book is going to do as much damage to women as everyone thinks it will. Most women understand that the entire book is really, really, f---ed up, and reading about something so WRONG is half the fun! That's the consensus reached between me and all my friends at least. I agree with you that the relationship depicted in this book is very unhealthy, but I do think it is going to have a limited effect on most women, really.

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  23. Anonymous, I really can't even begin to tell you how insulting and slut-shaming your comment is. "No one but someone emotionally disturbed would actually get off on BDSM, but that's why it's so popular." MANY perfectly healthy sane people get off on BDSM. It is kinky sex, nothing more, and nothing less. With consenting adults, it's rather fun, and I can assure you that people get off on it, and they aren't emotionally disturbed at all. That only "emotionally disturbed" people can enjoy it in your world view? Horribly inappropriate. "No healthy individual would enjoy the activities A&C partake in, or even entertain the idea of partaking in such activities!" ... the abuse? NO. Of course not. The kinky sex? Hell yes! Kinky sex is not something anyone should be ashamed of. It's fun. And honestly, the stuff A&C do is pretty damn tame, let me tell you.

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  24. I love sex and I'm always looking for something new to experiment with my boyfriend. However, this series got me angry and very disappointed. The abuse that happens in the story has nothing to do with the sex. Also, this is not a real BDSM realationship. A real BDSM relationship is based on trust and respect and throughout the books Christian did not respect Ana opinion. She was always afraid of him and worried if he was mad at her all the time. He did not even treated her like a human being. He is not sexy and he is not a romantic hero. He is an abuser. It is sad to hear so many women want their own "Christian" as a partner. Really? It is sick to hear women say that they find this series entertainig, fun or a sexy escape. For many women, domestic violence is a reality and many get killed by trying to "fix"a pscyho like Christian Grey. All you need to do is see the news and how this kind of relationships end BAD! I know these books are fiction but sometimes fiction books reflects social problems. Domestic violence should never be overlooked or accepted in books!

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  25. I hadn't read, nor had I planned to read 50 Shades before your blog. All I knew was that Christian Grey was supposed to be the perfect man, and the sex was supposed to be "kinky." Now, I'm actually worried about my friends and their ideas of a good relationship (I'm thinking of getting them some therapy as Christmas presents). The way I described this book to my mom was, "imagine your first marriage, but worse because you never left." This is not a book about BDSM, this is a book about the power men should have over women. Never mind the fact that, to me, this book contained no actual kinky sex(the riding crop? Done it, not at all weird), or that I doubt a sub would just up and decide to turn dom, the author leads an uneducated woman (towards the BDSM lifestyle; not actually calling women that read this uneducated) that the dom/sub play does not end when they exit the bedroom, and that trust doesn't go into this at all. My boyfriend and I would NEVER think about trying something new without having a conversation about it. Because we love and trust that the other will listen and not judge or push boundaries. This is something that is lacking in Shades. I don't understand how someone that hated being spanked thought being hit with a belt would be a good idea.

    Also, I'm unnerved that someone my mom's age can have the maturity level of a 14 year old girl.

    And sorry for how horribly this was typed up, it's actually a lot harder to do this on a Xoom than I thought it would be.

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  26. I'm terribly sorry, but I think the BDSM aspect is incidental, and the relationship describes 98% of relationships, and that is why it's such a runaway bestseller.

    It is a disgusting book, and most people are disgusting, and disgusting in exactly the same way this book describes them to be.

    I don't know how you've had the patience and the sheer tenacity to go on, week after week, doing this for us, and I admire and applaud you, and it's made me feel better - only, it hasn't. Everywhere I look, the only relationships that function are the ones where both parties have already swallowed the thinking behind all this hook, line and sinker and now stay together in a state of mutual disparagement, so it's basically a cold war of mutual hate, total dishonesty and doubled-up vanity, or at the least some kind of shut-off from one of the participants who just goes through the motions till he or she can be left alone again. I am genuinely yet to see a single relationship where there is not, one way or another, concession made - and concession is enough - to blatant sexism and misogyny, though it can work in a few different ways, with the man putting up with the woman's misogyny: her hatred of other women, her jealousy, her stupidity and her megalomania - but why then marry her? Because she acts out what he feels and what's got him there and he patronises her for the same reasons, because getting an equal or treating her as such is blasphemy. The only way out is something women like to see as 'self-respect' which is 'patronising the man's silly little whims.' That won't do.

    That's everyone.

    Aside, perhaps from you Jennifer. But the very fact you're hitting this from the angle of 'an abusive rather than a BDSM relationship' when it looks exactly the same as every relationship I have ever witnessed, makes me not quite understand where you're getting this standard of health from, that is, as something 'most people should expect, and generally get'. They don't. This book is prescriptive thinking and exactly how most people are.

    What I cannot follow is how you managed to get to exist at all. I can't follow it. How did you escape? It's a relief you did, but how.

    Tell me.

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    1. How incredibly sad. I don't know what particular world you live in, but my marriage of 32 years is about as ideal as it gets. Hubby is still adoring and sweet and devoted. I'm crazy about him and want to die the same instant he does so I don't breathe a moment longer than he does, frankly, because the world will be less kind and gentle and loving when he's not around. We adore being with each other and look forward to retirement when we can spend ALL day together, every day, if we wish to. He supports me unfailingly. Nursed me through illnesses and always called me beautiful and awesome. The man would die for me. I'd die for him. And we are not alone. Among my friends, there are many glowingly mutually-supportive and respectful and very, very, very happy longtime marriages.

      The world is more than what you've seen. And I'm glad that's not MY reality. So grim.

      And I find it sad that Mr. Grey is the idea man for so many readers. I find him a nightmare. I suppose, though, if looks and money is what said women prioritize, those women will find him ideal. He gives me the creeps.

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  27. The trick is to remind myself that I'm never going to be able to meet everyone on the planet, so I can continue to hope that there are better people out there, I guess.

    Basically, I just keep on truckin'.

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  28. I shall meditate on that one.

    P.S. I've only just worked out you can press this email button to get follow-up comments; I've left loads of comments elsewhere.

    Well done, by the way.

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  29. Any chance you could forward those .pdf's or a link?

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  30. I think what is going to be more damaging is that there are going to be teenahe girls who read this and think that is normal behaviour. Even worse there will be teenage boys who will think this is what women want. Being a teenager is hard enough as it is with out people leading people in the wrong direction.

    As a teenager (14) I was told that groping a woman was fine. So I groped a friend. Its not fine at all. It is now something I will regret for the rest of my life. Along with the hurt/upset that I caused a fellow human being. All because I was told it was fine and stupid enough to believe them. And if someone can that thick there will be teenagers reading 50 shades and thinking this how you treat a woman. And that makes me put my head in hands and really worry.

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